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264zn wrote:There are two kinds of people in this world...the ones that consider Lateralus to be tool's best album....and the ones that realise Aenima is better 8-)
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Some people just don't understand that Aenima is the transition between undertow and lateralus. Lateralus is what they were trying to create from the beginning. Everything that is stated or dabbled in on albums previous to lateralus is clearly presented in a balanced and intelligent way on lateralus. So much of the angry, aggressive, gothic nonsense from previous albums is focusef into objective archetypal ideas in the grudge, the patient, schism, ticks and leaches. All of the spiritual concepts are broken down into there clearest and cleanest forms throughout the album. And concentrated at times. Reflection is possible the most beautiful song they have written so far. The riffs are most mature and the drums are the most advanced. Lateralus is by far the best tool album. Aenima is a close second.
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blacksabbath wrote:Some people just don't understand that Aenima is the transition between undertow and lateralus. Lateralus is what they were trying to create from the beginning. Everything that is stated or dabbled in on albums previous to lateralus is clearly presented in a balanced and intelligent way on lateralus. So much of the angry, aggressive, gothic nonsense from previous albums is focusef into objective archetypal ideas in the grudge, the patient, schism, ticks and leaches. All of the spiritual concepts are broken down into there clearest and cleanest forms throughout the album. And concentrated at times. Reflection is possible the most beautiful song they have written so far. The riffs are most mature and the drums are the most advanced. All of this and aenima is still the best tool album. lateralus is a close second.
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10: Conditions of My Parole
9: V is for Viagra
8: Thirteenth Step
7: Mer De Noms
6: Opiate
5: Salival
4: Undertow
3: Aenima
2: 10,000 Days
1: Lateralus

I'm the only motherfucker here who has 10,000 Days in their top 2? So be it. Wings Pt II is my favorite song. It is the deepest exploration of the human soul I have ever heard in music. The Pot rocks HARD, Vicarious is like a theme song for Sauron, and Rosetta Stoned is alien prog. To me, 10,000 Days is more creative than Aenima. But Aenima, 10,000 days and Lateralus are all 10/10 albums imo anyway.
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blacksabbath wrote:Some people just don't understand that Aenima is the transition between undertow and lateralus. .

Yes. And I'm one of those people.
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petemasterpete wrote:
blacksabbath wrote:Some people just don't understand that Aenima is the transition between undertow and lateralus. Lateralus is what they were trying to create from the beginning. Everything that is stated or dabbled in on albums previous to lateralus is clearly presented in a balanced and intelligent way on lateralus. So much of the angry, aggressive, gothic nonsense from previous albums is focusef into objective archetypal ideas in the grudge, the patient, schism, ticks and leaches. All of the spiritual concepts are broken down into there clearest and cleanest forms throughout the album. And concentrated at times. Reflection is possible the most beautiful song they have written so far. The riffs are most mature and the drums are the most advanced. All of this and aenima is still the best tool album. lateralus is a close second.
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gamebounty wrote:10: Conditions of My Parole
9: V is for Viagra
8: Thirteenth Step
7: Mer De Noms
6: Opiate
5: Salival
4: Undertow
3: Aenima
2: 10,000 Days
1: Lateralus

I'm the only motherfucker here who has 10,000 Days in their top 2? So be it. Wings Pt II is my favorite song. It is the deepest exploration of the human soul I have ever heard in music. The Pot rocks HARD, Vicarious is like a theme song for Sauron, and Rosetta Stoned is alien prog. To me, 10,000 Days is more creative than Aenima. But Aenima, 10,000 days and Lateralus are all 10/10 albums imo anyway.
I really like 10,000 days. I just think that Aenima and undertow are more squishy. 10k days is really abrasive sounding. I love wings live, but usually skip it on the album. I basically just listen to Jambi and RS. Occasionally, I will listen to the other tracks. I used to really like Intention/RIT, but I kinda faded away from that. Lateralus is the only album I can listen to all the way through and still feel good about. And if you listen really closely to Aenima with with quality headphones, you'll hear some interesting stuff, especially on Eulogy. But in all honesty, I rarely listen to Tool these days. Sometimes I go months without even thinking about them. Recently, I've been more interested.
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Calfium Jay wrote:
blacksabbath wrote:Some people just don't understand that Aenima is the transition between undertow and lateralus. .

Yes. And I'm one of those people.
I don't quite understand that explanation from blacksabbath. So, I am one of those people too.
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People don't understand that there's only one opinion that's important, and that's mine...
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So i have this theory that if you were heavily into Tool pre Lateralus, then odds are Aenima is the album that truly blew you away by Tool that made you the fan you are today so its hard to beat that first time.. where as if youre a Tool fan post Lateralus then the same can be said of that album for you.

Obviously its not fool proof but still keen to hear peoples thoughts on here??
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hellboy wrote:People don't understand that there's only one opinion that's important, and that's mine...
on the contrary ... we won't be considering your opinion valid til you get a job, hippy!
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Busty McCracken wrote:So i have this theory that if you were heavily into Tool pre Lateralus, then odds are Aenima is the album that truly blew you away by Tool that made you the fan you are today so its hard to beat that first time.. where as if youre a Tool fan post Lateralus then the same can be said of that album for you.

Obviously its not fool proof but still keen to hear peoples thoughts on here??
I have been a big fan since Undertow, but it didn't click until the Aenima tour. I saw several shows between 96-98, and they are still some of the most memorable concerts I have ever been to. As much as I love Aenima and how it changed my entire perspective on music, I still think Lateralus is my favorite Tool album - but not by much. I think that your theory is better fit for fans who didn't hear Tool until 10,000 Days.
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Busty McCracken wrote:So i have this theory that if you were heavily into Tool pre Lateralus, then odds are Aenima is the album that truly blew you away by Tool that made you the fan you are today so its hard to beat that first time.. where as if youre a Tool fan post Lateralus then the same can be said of that album for you.

Obviously its not fool proof but still keen to hear peoples thoughts on here??
I became a Tool fan in 2000 and my favorite from those two depends on the day and what mood I'm in.

So, uh, your theory doesn't work on me.
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0 from 2 so far.... Great theory dickhead!
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Bill Hilly wrote:
Busty McCracken wrote:So i have this theory that if you were heavily into Tool pre Lateralus, then odds are Aenima is the album that truly blew you away by Tool that made you the fan you are today so its hard to beat that first time.. where as if youre a Tool fan post Lateralus then the same can be said of that album for you.

Obviously its not fool proof but still keen to hear peoples thoughts on here??
I have been a big fan since Undertow, but it didn't click until the Aenima tour. I saw several shows between 96-98, and they are still some of the most memorable concerts I have ever been to. As much as I love Aenima and how it changed my entire perspective on music, I still think Lateralus is my favorite Tool album - but not by much. I think that your theory is better fit for fans who didn't hear Tool until 10,000 Days.
I knew of tool prior to lateralus, but didn't think highly of them. All I knew was that people were wearing their shirts, and thought they were just one of those "new" bands like linkin park and korn. I preferred real music, like, Black Sabbath. I was with some friends the day Lateralus came out and remember hearing the grudge in their car. I thought it sounded like metal pink floyd and was merely suspicious. I thought the packaging was really cool, but way over the top. Lol. I actually didn't start listening to them from a personal place until 10.000 days. I was really into APC and the song 3rd eye, but didn't really get into Tool. 10.000 days came out and I picked up all their albums. I used to listen the lateralus 1st thing in the morning for months and started going to shows. I started taking psychedelics around that time too and was piddling through college. It was a fun time. I was already into all the alchemical and magical stuff that is associated with them and loved heavy and psychedelic music. Then Tool released a new album and it was great to experience all the music up to that point all at once, but I missed all the great shows from the 90s and lateralus tour. That part sucks, but I might not have liked it. I saw Isis open at my first Tool show, and was bored to death. But I've seen them since and consider it one of the greatest live music experiences ever. But anyway, the theory is true for me.
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Busty McCracken wrote:0 from 2 so far.... Great theory dickhead!
If it makes you feel better, your theory is correct with me. :D
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I am a post-Lateralus Tool fan and Lateralus is my favorite album. Theory still holds on!
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01. 10,000 Days (where is the love?)
02. Lateralus
03. Ænima
04. Undertow
05. Salival
06. Thirteenth Step
08. Mer de Noms
09. Opiate
10. Money Shot
11. Conditions of My Parole
12. "C" is for...
13. "V" is for Vagina
14. Don't Shoot the Messenger
15. Donkey Punch the Night
16. Emotive
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