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Blair's at it again...

BMB:
First of all, I have to ask: Being a tattoo artist, have you ever done a Tool-themed tattoo for a friend or for a customer?

ANSWER:
“ Yes, I’ve done a few. There was a “Wrench” tattoo for a lady friend. Also, a Tesseract - what that geometry on Danny’s kicks is called?- and a variation of the “Flaming Eye.” And… You’ll like this, Blair - A “Problem 8” thing. Part of a math equation - some thing that the customer had a drawing of… that I didn’t understand, but copied exactly. So, while you’re here, let me ask you a question: Does the Problem 8 thing really exist?

BMB (ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION)
Highly irregular – asking the interviewer a question right from the get-go. However, I’m game. Shit yes. In fact, I waned the band members to agree to do a geo-caching type treasure hunt with it… posting the GPS coordinates of its location, but have them embedded in a cryptic news post that was seemingly about something else. Something different. But, because of the chance of someone finding the buried container… or whatever it was that concealed it – which I also wanted to include a disposable camera to verify their find - no one wanted to do it. I don’t think that they want this to be discovered until some time in the not too distant future. I’m fairly sure that they wished that I never mentioned it in the first place… but no one told me not to. Yet… maybe someday I will do this with mine… OR… maybe I already have posted the coordinates in a news post (or elsewhere) without their knowledge, and the ‘treasure’ is there for the taking…

INTERVIEWEE:
“Okay.”

BMB:
Okay, just don’t ask me about the “Bethlehem Abortion Clinic” album artwork in that ‘spurious’ catalog inserted into the European release of “Aenima.” So, how did you become a Tool fan?
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and...

ANSWER:
“Besides the music, lyrics, live shows and merchandise, I like the camaraderie that is shared by many Tool fans. How certain ideas are introduced and elaborated on. Sometimes things are way overthought – taken to the extreme – like all the energy spent on secret alternate track sequences, or playing different tracks at the same time to create a totally different song. Trying to sync Lateralus with a Tim Burton film! It seems like all that energy spent on hidden meanings could be better served. Rather than spending countless hours trying to solve the whereabouts of a hidden song, they could actually solve the Riemann Hypothesis… or something like it. Some fans are pretty gullible, too! You know – believing that Maynard has a full-scale replica of Captain Nemo’s “Nautilus” submarine in his swimming pool, complete with a pipe organ inside…”

BMB:
Being a Tool fan, do you have any Tool collectibles that you are proud of?

ANSWER:
“Does Aenima vinyl count? I have this shirt that I’m wearing… and a lenticular keychain… that isn’t broken. That’s about it, I guess… but… maybe… after you have another Peroni, Blair, you’ll accidently leak…tell me the coordinates where your Problem 8 thing is buried… or located. At least tell me what news post it’s hidden in?”
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From July's 2014 Newsletter...

You’ll please forgive me, but at this point I’ll need to pick up the pace a bit, as my memory of the events is fading. Perhaps the quieter I become, the more you will hear? Again, certain details are now a blank, but with whatever someone wanted from the various boxes and containers now removed, we re-loaded the U-Haul truck and were given directions to a self-storage unit where they were to be kept… Come to think of it… it was after a taking a few bites from the cookie… raisin, I think it was… that I really didn’t care any longer about what was in the containers that JOE and I had been loading and unloading all day under the broiling sun for $10.00 an hour. Maybe it was the concert footage for some future DVD, or maybe it was the master of “Problem 8”, or maybe it was the so-called ‘curve ball’ that the band had put so much effort into not that long ago, or maybe it was just a drill (a trial run for the real thing), or maybe Tool’s management was simply cleaning house. Who knows?

Is a geocache a self storage unit?
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And this as well...

As we carted load after load of boxes up onto the U-Haul, when no one was looking, I couldn’t resist taking a peek at some of the contents. So, the question becomes: did I see anything of interest? What was it that Howard Carter replied when asked if he could see anything upon entering the antechamber of King Tut’s tomb? “Yes, wonderful things.”

Inside the containers were Tool studio masters and slaves, ADATs, blank recording tape (?), and video and film footage, all individually labeled. Was this the footage that was taken many years ago for a possible live DVD? After the last boxes were loaded with a hand truck, I causally asked the band’s manager what was inside? “lenticular key-chains,” was the quick reply. Now, I didn’t need to be an expert on micro (facial) expressions to know that by using this ‘dangle’ there was something that someone was trying to hide. What these people didn’t know is that, before closing the door of the U-Haul, I took a couple of photos with my iPhone. If I remember to do so, I will post one or two of these on the ToolArmy site with a misleading caption (so not to be viewed by the wrong people).
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This link contains an x/y coordinate grid...

And the release dates for Salival & Lateralus

http://www.toolband.com/secrets/crypto.html
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More Stuff from November 2014...

"Mr. Blair, Hey, from Australia! I'm writing because I believe I may have solved the mystery as to the whereabouts of TOOL's ultimate hidden track, Problem 8 (if it does indeed exist). First of all, I'm no author, so please excuse my grammar. I'm quite excited to hear this song whenever that may be. If ever at all!

I've been enjoying following your posts for a couple years now and have just recently begun attempting to pick up and piece together the Problem 8 clues and hints you drop so regularly. I'm sure you've received emails from other Tool listeners/readers of your newsletters whom have thrown wild guesses around before they've connected the clues as I have. But, the reason I'm confident in my findings is that since scrounging the web for information regarding the hidden track I have not come across one comment that suggests the theory I'm about to put forward. Too many People seem to be looking for mathematical equations... haha. This must be quite amusing from an insider's perspective such as your own.

You obviously have been linking many subtle and some not-so-subtle clues to certain signed drumheads for some time now. The reasons for why I believe it's now solved are as follows:

A couple of days ago when I re-read the Halloween newsletter, I noticed in particular the part speaking of this Rance Q Spartley's traumatic experiences after receiving the 'cursed drumhead' and how he blamed all his "PROBLEMs on the cursed drumhead". The entire paragraph to follow contains the hints - 'errant sigil constructed without linear exactitude', in regards to the hand drawn sigil on the signed drumhead. 'Something being disturbed from its frozen slumber', refers to the long forgotten and un-played song. You mention "removing the drumhead from the 'museum's' dusty, cobweb-festooned upper floor", and suggest that this "really was the case" (that contains the drumhead).

Other major clues are connected to the signed drumheads via the man himself, Mr Danny Carey. The relation between Bethlehem Abortion Clinic's catalog number and Danny's old home phone number seemed to be where most people are stuck on this. lot of people are aware of this connection but as far as I can tell, they seem to be searching for a real mathematical formula among the catalog numbers, Which brings me to my personal favorite - the so called mathematical formula encoded in the Aenima spoof import catalog which I believe refers to the album cover 'Nurse Ketimella's Kit* Chen' as we know there is certainly a mathematical formula used in manufacturing the drug Ketamine. This brings our attention to the subtitle 'Kit*' taken from drum kit which also clearly makes a connection to the drumhead.

Then there's the picture uploaded of the man, standing in the 'museum' with Problem 8 on the shelf behind. I read somewhere that it's Danny's cat photo-shopped in there. On the man's head he wears the same occult symbol found on Danny's website and on your IJYNX book cover.

Note that I have not heard the song so I cannot be entirely certain the I am correct but my research tells me that if I was to purchase a certain signed drumhead from "Merch" next time they are available (as you've said to keep a look out for them), I would be able to find the track physically hidden behind it, in the drumhead's case, either on cd, vinyl or cassette. Or the drumhead itself doubles as a record... Now that's a bit imaginative I think. Of course if there are no more to go on sale at any time then there's the matter of tracking one down which will certainly be no simple task.

Ultimately the purpose of spending hours reading into these clues is to hopefully obtain a copy of Problem 8 'The Riemann Hypothesis'. Like a lot of other people out there, I just want to hear the damned song!

Sure I can still happily listen to Tool songs from any old album any time of day, but the thought of hearing this hidden track for the first time is rather inconceivable, if it really is a full-blown 6 minute-ish Tool song like you've suggested in the past. You've said it yourself, it's the Holy Grail of Tool merch. Some don't believe it's even exists. However, I, do. If you would please post a response on whether or not my theory is accurate, I would greatly appreciate it."

REPLY:

Although I appreciate the mental gymnastics, there's really NO need for any "ROOM 237" Stanley Kubrick-The Shining quest for hidden clues and perceived meanings. I have already suggested the location of a hidden track as perhaps the ultimate item of Tool memorabilia, and will stand by this despite any attempts to demonstrate otherwise.

For the time being, perhaps its best to think of "PROBLEM 8: THE RIEMANN HYPOTHESIS" (being the 'most important unresolved problem in pure mathematics, and being concerned with locations of certain non-trivial zeros) as being a TERMA of sorts - a hidden treasure waiting for a future discovery... at the approved time... when the conditions are right... in the TERTON'S mindstream.

E-MAIL:

Hey Blair, Just wondering, if Problem 8 is released on the next TooL album, which I suspect is not an unreal suspicion, will you ever reveal the original location?

REPLY:

The ORIGINAL location?.. as in a recording device?..
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The reimann hypothesis is a real mathematics problem. No one has solved it. Hence the tool relation. It won't be solved. It's just a game Blair plays
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The answer is Forty Two.
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https://shop.toolarmy.com/ProductDetail ... de=LentKey
heres my guess. its in one of these. they released 30 of them with a tiny memory card inside it. the "lenticular keychain" is mentioned all the way back to a newsletter in 2005, again in 2008, again in 2014 where its mentioned that one is cracked: http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/index.php?t=1&id=94 and now again in this most recent one. google "lenticular keychain" and control F the newsletters that come up to read all the references to it. also here is what was said about problem 8 and where to find it: Because of the ingenious way it was made available to the public, “Problem 8” , in my opinion, constitutes the ultimate hidden track. Only, don’t go looking for it among your collection (most of you, that is!), as there are no more than 30 copies on the planet. As for those who have one, most, I’m sure, aren’t aware of it, even though it might be staring them right in the eye on a near daily basis. The reason they aren’t aware of it, is because they’d never think to play it. Okay, enough said…


it would be the ultimate tool move, that 30 people have been carrying around their hidden song for years, possibly seeing it all day every day, and not knowing it was there.
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Kittaan wrote:The answer is Forty Two.

I came to the same conclusion. But I'll be checking my calculations at least twice before we group hug.
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thesheedspot wrote:https://shop.toolarmy.com/ProductDetail ... de=LentKey
heres my guess. its in one of these. they released 30 of them with a tiny memory card inside it. the "lenticular keychain" is mentioned all the way back to a newsletter in 2005, again in 2008, again in 2014 where its mentioned that one is cracked: http://www.toolband.com/news/letter/index.php?t=1&id=94 and now again in this most recent one. google "lenticular keychain" and control F the newsletters that come up to read all the references to it. also here is what was said about problem 8 and where to find it: Because of the ingenious way it was made available to the public, “Problem 8” , in my opinion, constitutes the ultimate hidden track. Only, don’t go looking for it among your collection (most of you, that is!), as there are no more than 30 copies on the planet. As for those who have one, most, I’m sure, aren’t aware of it, even though it might be staring them right in the eye on a near daily basis. The reason they aren’t aware of it, is because they’d never think to play it. Okay, enough said…


it would be the ultimate tool move, that 30 people have been carrying around their hidden song for years, possibly seeing it all day every day, and not knowing it was there.
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edit: And now I'm imagining a bunch of Tool fans smashing their lenticular key chains looking for something hidden inside today. :lol:
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Completely unrelated, Lenticular Keychains were just restocked in the web store!
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I'll take 30! (It's a coincidence I swear)
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After reading the latest news update (21st Nov), I had a quick read of the Daily Grail article that was linked too;

https://www.dailygrail.com/2009/12/occult-rock/

To quote the part that interested me...

"According to the author, the thirty-fourth Spirit is “Furfur”, who, when compelled by the Operator (i.e. Conjured up within a Triangle), once taking the form of an angel, gives TRUE answers both of things secret and Divine (if commanded). Some of these “secret and divine” things are actually revealed in the insert that came with CD, although there is no evidence that this has ever been discovered by any of the band’s fans."

After refreshing myself on some of the other points discussed on the web I decided to buy a copy of the CD with the much discussed fake albums...

I then tried laying the CD over the Bethlehem Abortion Clinic artwork... The result is below...
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To me it appears some/most of the lines of the sigil match up to the artwork. There also appears to be a triangle with the bird in the middle surrounded by a ring of clear/yellow created by the centre of the CD iteself.

A couple of conflicting points though;

- Furfur is mentioned, when the CD contains the sigil of Astaroth
- The Sigil is upside down in the picture above

Additionally Astaroth is known for his/her bad breath, which is the name of the fake CD next to Bethlehem Abortion Clinic
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Other pictures with the sigil repositioned over the artwork... The sigil is facing the correct way up in these relative to the picture but the lines etc don't seem to be as good a match.

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This is a better photo without the flash reflection...

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And the reverse...

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Froudie wrote: - Furfur is mentioned, when the CD contains the sigil of Astaroth
While the vinyl version of Ænima contains Ipos sigil.

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In demonology, Ipos is an Earl and powerful Prince of Hell (a Duke to some authors) who has thirty-six legions of demons under his command. He knows and can reveal all things, past, present and future (only the future to some authors, and past and future to others). He can make men witty and valiant.

He is commonly depicted with the body of an angel with the head of a lion, the tail of a hare, and the feet of a goose, less frequently in the same shape but with the body of a lion, and rarely as a vulture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipos
http://demons.wikia.com/wiki/Ipos

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Another possible link I found today...

MAY 2012 NEWSLETTER

“Aenima” was the first Tool project that I was asked to contribute something to, although this was merely a small part of the art design for the import, which I collaborated on with Shep’s talented girlfriend. (Or… was she merely his roommate?) Another thing about the “Aenima” recording that I remember, was a plan devised at the loft to create the ultimate hidden track. This was inspired by the whole Klaatu/Beatles thing, but the problem of actually pulling it off would take a lot more thought.

MAY 2012 NEWSLETTER
The next time I saw Shep wasn't at the loft, but it was the one time that Danny and I almost didn't make it back to the place. While visiting the Pigmy bassist at the Hollywood apartment that he shared with his girlfriend, I was admiring some of the paintings that she had done. I was particularly impressed with her use of interference acrylics, and asked Shep about it. Even though it was very late at night, and his girlfriend was asleep upstairs, he advocated that I go ask her about it. Accordingly, I headed up the stairs and walked into the bedroom where she was lying completely naked on top of the covers. Awkward situation? Evidently not. When I complimented her on her artistic output and enquired about the pearlescent effects, without the slightest hesitation or least trace of bashfulness, she began to explain about applying the transparent glaze, viewing angles, and optical characteristics. Wow, Shep had a cool girlfriend! (Or... was she merely his roommate?)
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From http://www.justpaint.org/layering-and-m ... ic-paints/

Helpful Hints about Interference Colors

The initial important and helpful things to know about most of the Interference colors are:

They are very translucent and reach their maximum intensity when fully dry.
The color effect is angle dependent. At very oblique angles over a white or pale valued color, the compliment of the main interference color can be seen. So, for instance, Interference Red can also appear greenish, Interference Orange, bluish, and Interference Green, reddish. This “flip” cannot be seen when the Interference colors are over a dark valued color, such as black, or if blended with dark valued colors.
The strongest color effect is with a thin application over a dark valued color, such as black.
They can be mixed and blended with other colors.
When blending with very light valued and opaque colors such as Titanium White, keep additions very small. Adding too much will cause the pigments to all but disappear and the interference effect will be blocked.
Mixing with darker valued pigments will make an infinite variety of more intense iridescent colors that can also become opaque, yet maintain a strong iridescence.
You can blend them with any translucent acrylic medium to create translucent iridescent/interference glazes.


Iridescence (also known as goniochromism) is the phenomenon of certain surfaces that appear to gradually change colour as the angle of view or the angle of illumination changes.
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Do we need to look at the European insert from a variety of angles under different light conditions?

The artwork for Bethlehem Abortion Clinic appears to have colours that could match the ideas above.
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