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I had thought about framing it from the get go. I may just lay it all out this week a few ways and post some pictures of ideas.
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Anyone regret having bought the re-release?
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I certainly don't regret purchasing the Opiate resissue as I had missed the opportunities previously to purchase other autographed memorabilia such as the signed Salival and signed Lateralus vinyl.

I collect memorabilia, event posters, and autographs as a hobby, not just music but sports as well (one of only a few autographed memorabilia I purchased without getting signed in person was the Opiate reissue), however I am unhappy with the value of the product in comparison to other TOOL limited edition releases. It seems that the Opiate reissue doesn't have a strong market value at all (not that I am looking to sell my item) compared to Salival's, Lateralus Vinyl's etc. It's unfortunate. I am also attributing an absolute flooding of the market of TOOL autographs that has has been happening since about 2007 when at almost any TOOL concert you could buy an autographed poster. Then came the drumheads. Etc etc.

I also think alot of negativity involved the fact that TOOL was releasing a reissue of older material rather than new material and that soured the product as well. I don't think I can go on to any forum that speaks of the Opiate reissue in a positive light.

Regardless, I am glad I own it and could afford it at the time, I don't feel raped or ripped off, nor do I suck TOOL's penis, so for me it's no real big loss. I have spent thousands of dollars on other things that were far more senseless and often times certifiably questionable.

As stated earlier I would like to somehow frame this reissue in a way to display how awesome the artwork is.
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iloveposters wrote:however I am unhappy with the value of the product in comparison to other TOOL limited edition releases. It seems that the Opiate reissue doesn't have a strong market value at all (not that I am looking to sell my item) compared to Salival's, Lateralus Vinyl's etc. It's unfortunate. I
It's more likely because it wasn't really a 'limited edition'. 5000 copies is a lot for something like that. The others were more limited weren't they?
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I don't regret buying it, nor would I have lost any sleep if I didn't. I still feel like it's a missed opportunity for Tool to have done something really cool.
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basejumper wrote:
iloveposters wrote:however I am unhappy with the value of the product in comparison to other TOOL limited edition releases. It seems that the Opiate reissue doesn't have a strong market value at all (not that I am looking to sell my item) compared to Salival's, Lateralus Vinyl's etc. It's unfortunate. I
It's more likely because it wasn't really a 'limited edition'. 5000 copies is a lot for something like that. The others were more limited weren't they?
Salival was limited edition, I'm not sure of the number though. It can also be easily found on Amazon etc for about $30.
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Ravenpig wrote: Salival was limited edition, I'm not sure of the number though. It can also be easily found on Amazon etc for about $30.
Not sure how limited Salival is, but you haven't been able to find it anywhere online with any regularity for under $100 in the last 5 or so years.
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Brand new, yes. It makes sense for it to be that high if it's new.

I just searched amazon and a whole bunch used popped up starting at $55.

I remember reading once that it was limited to 100,000, does that sound right?
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I think it was actually 100,000,000,000,000,012 copies.
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Ravenpig wrote: I just searched amazon and a whole bunch used popped up starting at $55.
No one wants a Salival with a pre-licked square on it
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Where i lived when salival came out there was am abadunce of copies of Salival. I bought the VHS version and then months later returned to the same Music store and bought the DVD version once I got a DVD player. Yep. The good ol' days. Also I was talking about the signed salivals being more limited than unsigned.

Also for what it's worth I was extremely disspoonted about now having the money to get the APC box set as it would have been a cool collector's piece especially since I dont't have anyone from APCs autograph. However after hearing the horror stories about the quality of the box and the overall material I am not that upset. Plus I had the pleasure of hanging out with Billy a few times many years ago as his sister is a nurse and worked with one of my good friend's sister. That was cool.
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iloveposters wrote:...it would have been a cool collector's piece especially since I dont't have anyone from APCs autograph. However after hearing the horror stories about the quality of the box and the overall material I am not that upset.

What horror stories?
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A short while later, the music suddenly stopped mid-song. After a moment of silence an announcer's voice came on, announcing a sale on A Perfect Circle boxsets at a local record store — which happened to be located within a half-mile of Lovers' Lane — and urging that anyone in the area should go and buy it.

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When they arrived at the girl's house she got out of the car, and, reaching to close the door, began to scream uncontrollably. The boy ran to her side to see what was wrong and there, dangling from the door handle, was a ruined copy of the A Perfect Circle because the materials were like really shoddy or something.
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The boxsets would snap in half or break upon opening, or they arrived already broken. Also there apparently was a wall hanger on the back of the boxset to hang and it would break off when hanging on the wall. Also the customer service was dreadful in responding tocomplaints regarding broken box sets. Customer Service would take weeks to respond or wouldn't respond at all. Finally when CS would respond they told customers to try glue. I also know of a few cases of people never getting their box sets, or they had to hunt down their post man because the boxsets were delivered to wrong addresses. International customers were not told they had to put up to $150 for customs to release their product and were surprised when they had to come up with the extra cash. Many complained about importing issues when they tried transferring the CD's their laptop.
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iloveposters wrote:International customers were not told they had to put up to $150 for customs to release their product and were surprised when they had to come up with the extra cash.
Well these customers are idiots ... there's no way the band/management is going to track the different levies and shipping taxes of every foreign country. It varies from country to country with central/south american countries being particularly skittish when it comes to such things, including the delivery of items (especially those of any value) in general.
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Even with mine falling apart I don't regret the purchase. I was hoping for a shot at the golden ticket, whatever that ends up being. I do however find myself sort of at a loss, like what the hell was I planning on doing with a $150 cd that i already have copies of? So that brings me back to the framing option for my chill room. Enjoy the signatures and the art pieces for what they are and hope that I can unfold the packaging into some shape that takes well to the framing process.
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iloveposters wrote:The boxsets would snap in half or break upon opening, or they arrived already broken. Also there apparently was a wall hanger on the back of the boxset to hang and it would break off when hanging on the wall. Also the customer service was dreadful in responding tocomplaints regarding broken box sets. Customer Service would take weeks to respond or wouldn't respond at all. Finally when CS would respond they told customers to try glue. I also know of a few cases of people never getting their box sets, or they had to hunt down their post man because the boxsets were delivered to wrong addresses. International customers were not told they had to put up to $150 for customs to release their product and were surprised when they had to come up with the extra cash. Many complained about importing issues when they tried transferring the CD's their laptop.

Wow, I had no idea. I had buyers remorse for buying the Opiate and did not purchase the APC box set. I would rather have had that one. Now, I'm glad I didn't purchase it, especially after a friend sent me all the DVD's and cd's from the box set.
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no golden ticket prize packs yet?
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budsyralli wrote:no golden ticket prize packs yet?
Nope.
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Actually my source says "Yes."
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As was mentioned back during this whole thing, i have no dog in this fight - but I think not even having a prize for the winners of these "golden tickets" is incredibly piss-poor.

I know TOOL have given us some awesome stuff over the years, and for all intents and purposes, they're good human beings: But this just speaks massively of either how little they have it together, or how little they think of their fans.
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Its a shame really that there hasn't been any updates on this subject
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The Boss wrote:all intensive porpoises, they're good human beings
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If I ever go to a vip session that's what i'll ask.

Me: What ever happened to the golden ticket winners? What was the prize?
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