Random Tool Social Media thread

The Main Event
Tool_User
Optomist
Posts: 463
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:47 pm

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Tool_User » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:19 am

xZ1mM3r wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:07 am
Tool_User wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:04 am
xZ1mM3r wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:53 am


Gibson makes guitars. Adam has played a Gibson guitar for 3 decades in a very high profile and successful band. Gibson is right to recognize him. If that means a signature model then awesome. Good for both of them.

People buy Jordan's... they are just a signature model shoe... do you feel the same way about them?
Yeah I'm happy for him, didn't say I wasn't. As for the shoes, yeah I do actually. I find people spending a fortune on shit because it has a famous person's name attached to it insane. Life tip - buying Jordans doesn't make you like Jordan. So do you play guitar? Ever bought a signature model? Why?
fair point. and one that i mostly agree with.

and for the record:
i dont play guitar. and i own zero jordans. :lol:
Ah fair enough, sorry if I came across a bit short it's been a long week! I never played a signature model and always imagined it would sound exactly like whoever it's modelled on, so that must be a gimmick type thing? I know you could say the same about a strat etc but you can tweak the sound and if your gonna do that on a signature model then why get it in the first place? Probably some people just enjoy having them to play and admire.

User avatar
xZ1mM3r
Adsense Clicker
Posts: 2183
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:27 pm
Location: Autzen Stadium

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by xZ1mM3r » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:08 am

Looks like Tool's facebook page is playing catch up now. They just posted the Opiate cover today.

Takeo
Has been
Posts: 205
Joined: Tue May 07, 2019 11:17 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Takeo » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:13 am

So the 10,000 Days album cover will likely post on Saturday, 10,000 days since the release of Opiate. I guess that makes some kind of sense within this pseudo countdown.

User avatar
thekillingjoke
Fanboi
Posts: 90
Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:56 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by thekillingjoke » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:18 am

Tool_User wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:19 am
I never played a signature model and always imagined it would sound exactly like whoever it's modelled on, so that must be a gimmick type thing? I know you could say the same about a strat etc but you can tweak the sound and if your gonna do that on a signature model then why get it in the first place? Probably some people just enjoy having them to play and admire.
It's mostly a "nice to have"-thing I suppose. A model that "sounds exactly like the artist" is probably even kind of rare, since signature products are designed and marketed to be affordable for fans as opposed to professional budgets. I have the DC signature snare, and while I can confirm it does NOT make me sound like him and the objective product quality can't really be near anything he has played in the last 20 years, I quite like it and would not want to trade it. Bottom line - it's all subjective.

Tool_User
Optomist
Posts: 463
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:47 pm

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Tool_User » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:22 am

thekillingjoke wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:18 am
Tool_User wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:19 am
I never played a signature model and always imagined it would sound exactly like whoever it's modelled on, so that must be a gimmick type thing? I know you could say the same about a strat etc but you can tweak the sound and if your gonna do that on a signature model then why get it in the first place? Probably some people just enjoy having them to play and admire.
It's mostly a "nice to have"-thing I suppose. A model that "sounds exactly like the artist" is probably even kind of rare, since signature products are designed and marketed to be affordable for fans as opposed to professional budgets. I have the DC signature snare, and while I can confirm it does NOT make me sound like him and the objective product quality can't really be near anything he has played in the last 20 years, I quite like it and would not want to trade it. Bottom line - it's all subjective.
Yeah I get where you are coming from. To be fair I always heard that tone is in the fingers anyway but wtf do I know I'm just curious.
Last edited by Tool_User on Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:24 am, edited 1 time in total.

Tool_User
Optomist
Posts: 463
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:47 pm

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Tool_User » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:24 am

Jack White actually toured recently or last year and only played with other players signature models. Van halens was one of them. I wonder what the thinking behind that was.

User avatar
thekillingjoke
Fanboi
Posts: 90
Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:56 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by thekillingjoke » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:30 am

"tone is in the fingers" - absolutely. The player is always the most important factor.

User avatar
fractal-machine
Has been
Posts: 208
Joined: Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:13 am
Location: Behind you

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by fractal-machine » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:33 am


🐐
A person or group which is used or controlled, usually unwittingly, by another person or group.

User avatar
Boldizar
Optomist
Posts: 458
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:15 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Boldizar » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:35 am

There are two types of signature models, real deals and budgets. Danny's Ride is a real deal, Danny's Snare was a higher class budget, for some examples. ESP does real deal guitars (the same ones the artists use) and budget versions. The benefit to artists models is a lot of times there are custom things that would cost way more for you to do on your own. This way it is mass produced and easier to access.

A great example of the usefulness of signature models is the former Sonor Danny Carey Snare. Danny has been using a 14x8 Bronze snare forever. If you look these up there has only ever been about 3 on the retail market. The first was Sonor's Bronze Bell Snare from the late 80s. It was extremely limited and expensive. If that sound and size is something you want, it doesn't appear there were other options until 2009 when Sonor released their Bronze shell 14x8 signature model. In the last two or three years Ludwig also release a hammered bronze shell 14x8 (which is similar enough). Danny's ride is a good example too as you can't get the Signature Dry Heavy Rides anymore.

I am very interested in what Adam's potential guitar turns out to be. If it has the pickup selector routed so the top is a killswitch like his, that would be a neat feature. One of the special aspects of those guitars is the width of the bodies. The only comparable les paul style guitar I have seen is Bill Keliher's ESP model. I have heard the paint they used contributes to the tone too but I am sure it won't be the same.
Dan Brown's Fear Inoculum: Best novel ever written, inspiring, worth the wait, not enough yelling, every page reads like the DaVinci Code... 3/10

Tool_User
Optomist
Posts: 463
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:47 pm

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Tool_User » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:44 am

Boldizar wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:35 am
There are two types of signature models, real deals and budgets. Danny's Ride is a real deal, Danny's Snare was a higher class budget, for some examples. ESP does real deal guitars (the same ones the artists use) and budget versions. The benefit to artists models is a lot of times there are custom things that would cost way more for you to do on your own. This way it is mass produced and easier to access.

A great example of the usefulness of signature models is the former Sonor Danny Carey Snare. Danny has been using a 14x8 Bronze snare forever. If you look these up there has only ever been about 3 on the retail market. The first was Sonor's Bronze Bell Snare from the late 80s. It was extremely limited and expensive. If that sound and size is something you want, it doesn't appear there were other options until 2009 when Sonor released their Bronze shell 14x8 signature model. In the last two or three years Ludwig also release a hammered bronze shell 14x8 (which is similar enough). Danny's ride is a good example too as you can't get the Signature Dry Heavy Rides anymore.

I am very interested in what Adam's potential guitar turns out to be. If it has the pickup selector routed so the top is a killswitch like his, that would be a neat feature. One of the special aspects of those guitars is the width of the bodies. The only comparable les paul style guitar I have seen is Bill Keliher's ESP model. I have heard the paint they used contributes to the tone too but I am sure it won't be the same.
That was very interesting and informative, thanks! I didn't think of it as a good way to getting the custom parts cheaper. Although I can't imagine gibson do budget signature guitars so I'll bet Adams won't be cheap. Matt Bellamys custom mansion guitars look insane. They have chaos pads and all sorts built into them I bet you could have a lot of fun with one of those.

Tool_User
Optomist
Posts: 463
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:47 pm

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Tool_User » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:46 am

thekillingjoke wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:30 am
"tone is in the fingers" - absolutely. The player is always the most important factor.
No wonder stevie Ray Vaughan had such a killer tone then he had fingers like fuckin King Kong! He used to have to go back stage sometimes to super glue his finger nails back together because they were coming apart he played that hard.

User avatar
thekillingjoke
Fanboi
Posts: 90
Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:56 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by thekillingjoke » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:52 am

The DC snare was discontinued by Sonor after a few years, while other signature snares from the same era are still around. So it probably wasn't a big seller - but it seems to be collector's item, since it very rarely shows up on ebay, and last time I've seen it the asking price was more than twice the original retail price. So it seems to hit a particular, narrow niche very well.

User avatar
fractal-machine
Has been
Posts: 208
Joined: Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:13 am
Location: Behind you

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by fractal-machine » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:29 am

Holy shit. Within the last two hours the official Twitter account has caught up with the IG account! Makes me almost want to start a Twitter account and follow...
A person or group which is used or controlled, usually unwittingly, by another person or group.

User avatar
budsyralli
Fornicraster
Posts: 590
Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:31 pm
Height: this tall

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by budsyralli » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 am

Some quite deep thoughts and assumptions from you all.
go taff!

Danny
Has been
Posts: 209
Joined: Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:46 pm

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Danny » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:06 pm

@Boldizar thanks for the info!
I forgot my pen

User avatar
Boldizar
Optomist
Posts: 458
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:15 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Boldizar » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:35 pm

thekillingjoke wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:52 am
The DC snare was discontinued by Sonor after a few years, while other signature snares from the same era are still around. So it probably wasn't a big seller - but it seems to be collector's item, since it very rarely shows up on ebay, and last time I've seen it the asking price was more than twice the original retail price. So it seems to hit a particular, narrow niche very well.
Yea, it is not easy to come by now. I got super lucky a few months ago and snagged one dirt cheap. I just wish I had the box.
Danny wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:06 pm
@Boldizar thanks for the info!
No problem.
Dan Brown's Fear Inoculum: Best novel ever written, inspiring, worth the wait, not enough yelling, every page reads like the DaVinci Code... 3/10

earthrocker
Green Herbsman
Posts: 451
Joined: Tue May 03, 2016 9:59 am
Height: Short
Location: Always Changing

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by earthrocker » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:56 pm

...
Attachments
Image-1.jpg
Image-1.jpg (241.07 KiB) Viewed 2609 times
Don't listen to Cog

User avatar
greasy
Has been
Posts: 124
Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:33 am
Location: NJ
Contact:

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by greasy » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:08 pm

Sunday just may be the day. We shall see.
Yes, I am the same Greasy from the hubs (remember AMT?)

https://www.ebay.com/str/cgreinsky

User avatar
nxrm
Bogan
Posts: 1598
Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:13 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by nxrm » Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:13 pm

joeypants wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:30 am
My god, the excitement over these album postings! hahahaha christ, this band has done a number on their fan's minds. For real.

(but hey if it gets you off, enjoy)
:lol:
So Long, and Thanks for All the Tool.

User avatar
brianlikesmovies
My pain is just an excuse
Posts: 45
Joined: Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:35 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by brianlikesmovies » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:44 pm

Yeah, I'm almost completely convinced we'll get 10,000 days tomorrow, and a title and artwork sunday. Just my 2 cents.
Whys it smell like bitch in here?

mattw
Phony
Posts: 217
Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 12:25 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by mattw » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:49 pm

10,000 days obviously on Saturday...

...and then absolutely nothing on Sunday so as to build up the excitement even more. Fans will go crazy NOT knowing.

Then something new MONDAY to start the working week. But, seriously, watch how many people lose their shit when they don't get anything on Sunday. Going 35 to 45 hours without anything new added to Instagram will be excruciating for some people :)

EDIT: Also agree with what someone said about that Adam pic appearing in a magazine for promotion rather than my comment about the album sleeve. Makes more sense.

Takeo
Has been
Posts: 205
Joined: Tue May 07, 2019 11:17 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Takeo » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:56 pm

Yeah I'm gonna call 10,000 Days artwork tomorrow night. A rolling simmer through Sunday. And then BALLS OUT mid-day Monday.

Only question is...artwork? packaging? formats? pre-sales? streaming? tracklisting? single? tour dates? website rollout :?:

User avatar
children
Metalologist
Posts: 504
Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:48 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by children » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:11 pm

Here's a little something to ease that illusory pain:

"That's what you get when you argue with children..." -Tyson

User avatar
tys0n
Lord Festivus
Posts: 3377
Joined: Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:35 pm

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by tys0n » Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:51 pm

I doubt Tool will update anything on Sunday being a Christian band and all.
Canned audience laughter

User avatar
Specter
Tooooool
Posts: 833
Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:29 am

Re: Random Tool Social Media thread

Post by Specter » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:34 pm

tys0n wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 5:51 pm
I doubt Tool will update anything on Sunday being a Christian band and all.
Curveball
Dancing on the roof of some cartoon showroom

Post Reply