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Post by Casey Tatum » Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:36 pm

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The Pot sounds like a korn song


most ignorant statement i have ever fucking heard

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i think mog is mostly correct in his analysis of the pot. MJK sounds great on that record except in parts where he has to stretch his voice. not scream. stretch. Look at songs like reflection. where he could dynamic roll his voice in the correct key and pitch to suit where ever the music went. another example is the Staring down the hole again line from Pushit. his voice has changed, it is not bad and is still very very good. but he used to be able to manipulate his voice so much more. but it is just not correct at all that his best vocal work ws on 10k days. not tragic or upsetting. still an amazing album. i listen to it all the time. he is old, i wont ever talk shit about him for not being to hit that stuff anymore. it is just the way it is. the pot is not Tools worst song at all. not a huge fan of opening vocals but it is still a really good song. it was awesome live in 07.

Tool shows this year will still be fucking awesome, and he will sing well. people (myself included) need to lower expectations that are placed on this band. they have created that by having an almost perfect musical output and if they nail this album it will be perfect. but everyone needs to recognize that they are up against a mountain of expectation both put on by them as well as all of us. they may make an album that fulfills it, but they may not. time will tell. im hoping it goes above and beyond. 


Well said.  Maynard fans are remarkably sensitive and defensive.  In my response to GB, I specifically stated an example, in Wings, of where Maynard uses voice in a wonderfully creative way that fits perfectly with the music.  I think the song that probably best represents where his voice is at this age is Jambi.  Wonderful song.  Musically dynamic, vocally on point.  Thematically engaging.  I have never said Maynard has lost all talent.  The guy can still get it done.  But part of adjusting to age as a vocalist is learning what you can and cannot do and working with that.  For the most part, he succeeded on 10,000 Days.

 Part of the problem during the 06-07 tours was that Maynard was getting drowned out at times.  Tool plays fairly loud music, and Maynard's singing voice is not very powerful at this point.  I felt they were better when I saw them in 2009.  It has taken them some time to perfect their live show with Maynard's voice being what it is now.

 Again this isn't a knock on Maynard.  In the right setting, he can sound fantastic.  As much as this Puscifer project has pissed me off at times, there are a few songs that are truly exceptional.  The Humbling River immediately comes to mind.  When Maynard doesn't have to sing loud, he is still a wonderful vocalist.

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Post by Gwarden » Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:57 pm

joeypants said

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Blasphemer! The Pot is one of the best straightforward "rock" songs Tool has ever done, in my opinion. I'd love to know the details of how that song "almost broke up the band," according to Danny.


Can you provide the quote or more insight 

 

 

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"As a band, I suppose that one came together a little easier for us than some of the others. We didn't nearly break up over that one like we did for 'The Pot' (track five on said album). A lot heavier battle ensued over that tune than any other but for 'Wings For Marie', the music and even Maynard's lyrics just seemed to fall into place easily."

 

http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/1321 ... lks-to-dis

 

Good article. Also the same article where he talked about feeling like 10K Days isn't as cohesive as a whole.

 


cheers for that link, interesting read

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Post by Ravenpig » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:11 pm

I'll try.

Adam just posted a pic of a tv on pause. Why is that interesting? It's on what looks like a bunch of pot plants. Im on my phone or I'd link it.
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Post by Gwarden » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:24 pm

#c10?

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Post by Intension » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:02 am

That interview is really good! Worth a read.

 

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Post by James » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:00 pm

A thought kicked loose reading that interview with Danny regarding the physical album art for 10,000 Days:

 

10,000 Days isn't an accessible album when it comes to the artwork--there are these references to the Occult, images that they probably hold and recall but we can't possibly recognize. When I write poetry I often throw in pieces that I or people close to me will understand, but to readers it would just be a single-layered image. I imagine their albums are the same way; the reason this is relevant is because I wonder if they pointedly created the album that way, so people who wanted to understand the stereoscopic images (and imagery/thoughts within the art itself) had to work at it and such. I go back and forth on my opinion of a "hidden puzzle" within it, but today I realized it sort of upholds one of the tenants of Occult learning, the idea that the novice must set themselves on their own path and follow it alone, that self-taught knowledge shows an eager and diligent student. In my own attempts to delve into Occultism I am faced with the overwhelming amount of ideas to learn about before one can even begin to understand. Then you get into discussions, and sharing ideas with others, and such. I'm getting too existential now, so I'll leave it, but this was just a thought.

 

I really liked reading the interview though. Aside from that: I can't seem to find the photo of the TV, is that on his Facebook page somewhere? I don't own a Twitter.

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Post by Ravenpig » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:26 pm


James said 
 

 

I really liked reading the interview though. Aside from that: I can't seem to find the photo of the TV, is that on his Facebook page somewhere? I don't own a Twitter.


 

 

His instagram, don't know about facebook because I don't have one.  But when I did he used to post the same pic on all three most of the time.
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Post by joeypants » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:41 pm

It's just a pic of his porch from his CCTV system, seemingly.

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Post by budsyralli » Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:55 pm

James said
A thought kicked loose reading that interview with Danny regarding the physical album art for 10,000 Days:

 

10,000 Days isn't an accessible album when it comes to the artwork--there are these references to the Occult, images that they probably hold and recall but we can't possibly recognize. When I write poetry I often throw in pieces that I or people close to me will understand, but to readers it would just be a single-layered image. I imagine their albums are the same way; the reason this is relevant is because I wonder if they pointedly created the album that way, so people who wanted to understand the stereoscopic images (and imagery/thoughts within the art itself) had to work at it and such. I go back and forth on my opinion of a "hidden puzzle" within it, but today I realized it sort of upholds one of the tenants of Occult learning, the idea that the novice must set themselves on their own path and follow it alone, that self-taught knowledge shows an eager and diligent student. In my own attempts to delve into Occultism I am faced with the overwhelming amount of ideas to learn about before one can even begin to understand. Then you get into discussions, and sharing ideas with others, and such. I'm getting too existential now, so I'll leave it, but this was just a thought.

 

I really liked reading the interview though. Aside from that: I can't seem to find the photo of the TV, is that on his Facebook page somewhere? I don't own a Twitter.



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Post by gamebounty » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:52 am

I gotta say, yesterday I sat down and forced myself to learn the one part of The Pot that I could never play. It's the breakdown riff after the bass solo and before the final chorus. My god that riff owns. I think The Pot might be my favorite song in terms of riffage. It's that, Parabola or 10k days.

 

@tyson: Stop smoking that dope!

 

@James: good one man. That article is pretty cool. According to Danny Maynard has more involvement in the writing process than we think.
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Post by Casey Tatum » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:14 pm

James said
A thought kicked loose reading that interview with Danny regarding the physical album art for 10,000 Days:

 

10,000 Days isn't an accessible album when it comes to the artwork--there are these references to the Occult, images that they probably hold and recall but we can't possibly recognize. When I write poetry I often throw in pieces that I or people close to me will understand, but to readers it would just be a single-layered image. I imagine their albums are the same way; the reason this is relevant is because I wonder if they pointedly created the album that way, so people who wanted to understand the stereoscopic images (and imagery/thoughts within the art itself) had to work at it and such. I go back and forth on my opinion of a "hidden puzzle" within it, but today I realized it sort of upholds one of the tenants of Occult learning, the idea that the novice must set themselves on their own path and follow it alone, that self-taught knowledge shows an eager and diligent student. In my own attempts to delve into Occultism I am faced with the overwhelming amount of ideas to learn about before one can even begin to understand. Then you get into discussions, and sharing ideas with others, and such. I'm getting too existential now, so I'll leave it, but this was just a thought.

 

I really liked reading the interview though. Aside from that: I can't seem to find the photo of the TV, is that on his Facebook page somewhere? I don't own a Twitter.


If you have to work at understanding the artwork, then i am sure the music was meant to take some effort to understand as well.

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Post by James » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:13 pm

children said

James said
A thought kicked loose reading that interview with Danny regarding the physical album art for 10,000 Days:

 

10,000 Days isn't an accessible album when it comes to the artwork--there are these references to the Occult, images that they probably hold and recall but we can't possibly recognize. When I write poetry I often throw in pieces that I or people close to me will understand, but to readers it would just be a single-layered image. I imagine their albums are the same way; the reason this is relevant is because I wonder if they pointedly created the album that way, so people who wanted to understand the stereoscopic images (and imagery/thoughts within the art itself) had to work at it and such. I go back and forth on my opinion of a "hidden puzzle" within it, but today I realized it sort of upholds one of the tenants of Occult learning, the idea that the novice must set themselves on their own path and follow it alone, that self-taught knowledge shows an eager and diligent student. In my own attempts to delve into Occultism I am faced with the overwhelming amount of ideas to learn about before one can even begin to understand. Then you get into discussions, and sharing ideas with others, and such. I'm getting too existential now, so I'll leave it, but this was just a thought.

 

I really liked reading the interview though. Aside from that: I can't seem to find the photo of the TV, is that on his Facebook page somewhere? I don't own a Twitter.


If you have to work at understanding the artwork, then i am sure the music was meant to take some effort to understand as well.


This is true of any Tool album. The Gaping Lotus Experience, I'm not so sure of...

 

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Post by Casey Tatum » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:24 pm

James said

children said


James said
A thought kicked loose reading that interview with Danny regarding the physical album art for 10,000 Days:

 

10,000 Days isn't an accessible album when it comes to the artwork--there are these references to the Occult, images that they probably hold and recall but we can't possibly recognize. When I write poetry I often throw in pieces that I or people close to me will understand, but to readers it would just be a single-layered image. I imagine their albums are the same way; the reason this is relevant is because I wonder if they pointedly created the album that way, so people who wanted to understand the stereoscopic images (and imagery/thoughts within the art itself) had to work at it and such. I go back and forth on my opinion of a "hidden puzzle" within it, but today I realized it sort of upholds one of the tenants of Occult learning, the idea that the novice must set themselves on their own path and follow it alone, that self-taught knowledge shows an eager and diligent student. In my own attempts to delve into Occultism I am faced with the overwhelming amount of ideas to learn about before one can even begin to understand. Then you get into discussions, and sharing ideas with others, and such. I'm getting too existential now, so I'll leave it, but this was just a thought.

 

I really liked reading the interview though. Aside from that: I can't seem to find the photo of the TV, is that on his Facebook page somewhere? I don't own a Twitter.


If you have to work at understanding the artwork, then i am sure the music was meant to take some effort to understand as well.


This is true of any Tool album. The Gaping Lotus Experience, I'm not so sure of...

 


same goes for Maynard's Dick...

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Post by snazzlefrass » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:00 pm

reiEenieKdnU said
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/147836/


hahahahahaha

 

 
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Post by James » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:17 pm

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reiEenieKdnU said
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/147836/


hahahahahaha

 

 


"I think that this is a song that he heard at a carnival when he was a child. Because the song Jimmy has to do with his childhood, and it is basically the same as this song. So he remembered this from his childhood, and made Jimmy out of it, and this Intermission song is just and intro to Jimmy."

Oh ffs

 

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Post by The Boss » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:14 pm

If you have to "work" to understand any piece of art, it can't have been presented very well in the first place.

Simplicity is the highest form of art.
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Post by gamebounty » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:21 pm

crow011 said
If you have to "work" to understand any piece of art, it can't have been presented very well in the first place.

Simplicity is the highest form of art.


I LOVE being challenged by art. I go out of my way to find stuff like that.

 
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crow011 said
If you have to "work" to understand any piece of art, it can't have been presented very well in the first place.

Simplicity is the highest form of art.


I LOVE being challenged by art. I go out of my way to find stuff like that.

 


Meh. Often, now, "challenging" becomes synonymous with "lazy".

There's nothing wrong with reading a book that strives to be something grand (anything by Hesse or Borges, for example) - just don't get sucked in to "art for art's sake".
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Post by gamebounty » Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:27 pm

I completely agree. Some people just try too hard and the result is sloppy. But then there are the ones who were born to do it... and oh man, that stuff is juicy. 2001: A Space Odyssey, for example, is like @,@
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Post by Gwarden » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:37 am

Adam is telling us there will be triphop on the new album?

 



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Post by joeypants » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:31 am

Thank fuck because I only like my fetus heads smooooooooooooth smooth.

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Post by MOG » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:16 am

I still cannot believe Adam is going to release a video for The Pot.  It has been seven fucking years. #mindblown

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