Opiate 21st Anniversary Edition hits the printers

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Post by James » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:39 am

I agree with Kittaan on the beating a dead horse thing. We know you think the band are lazy fucks now, we know you aren't going to buy the Opiate re-release, we know you think every tour is a money grab. Everyone here has heard your opinion at least once, in all probability multiple times because so many feel the need to complain in every single thread, and it's obnoxious. Threads become a circle-jerk of your negativity and whining, and I know I've said this before but it continues. Hellboy even made The Grudge for it, and this shit is still around. I'm not saying that threads should be full of fanbois but at the very least could you fellas try and bring something new to the table for once? Some constructive criticism or new complaint? 

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Post by markuspoop » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:03 pm

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I agree with Kittaan on the beating a dead horse thing. We know you think the band are lazy fucks now, we know you aren't going to buy the Opiate re-release, we know you think every tour is a money grab. Everyone here has heard your opinion at least once, in all probability multiple times because so many feel the need to complain in every single thread, and it's obnoxious. Threads become a circle-jerk of your negativity and whining, and I know I've said this before but it continues. Hellboy even made The Grudge for it, and this shit is still around. I'm not saying that threads should be full of fanbois but at the very least could you fellas try and bring something new to the table for once? Some constructive criticism or new complaint? 




 
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Post by gamebounty » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:06 pm

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I agree with Kittaan on the beating a dead horse thing. We know you think the band are lazy fucks now, we know you aren't going to buy the Opiate re-release, we know you think every tour is a money grab. Everyone here has heard your opinion at least once, in all probability multiple times because so many feel the need to complain in every single thread, and it's obnoxious. Threads become a circle-jerk of your negativity and whining, and I know I've said this before but it continues. Hellboy even made The Grudge for it, and this shit is still around. I'm not saying that threads should be full of fanbois but at the very least could you fellas try and bring something new to the table for once? Some constructive criticism or new complaint? 


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Post by The Boss » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:15 pm

OK.

Anyone planning on buying several copies to sell later for a little profit?

It's not like it's scalping, so I don't see anything wrong with it.
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Post by Ravenpig » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:24 pm

^that's not a bad idea but the limit is 3. Maybe I WILL buy this after all, 3 copies to be exact
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Post by snazzlefrass » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:26 pm

crow011 said
OK.

Anyone planning on buying several copies to sell later for a little profit?

It's not like it's scalping, so I don't see anything wrong with it.


Was thinking of getting a copy or two. Then never opening them and selling them later to someone who really wants it. I'm a bastard.

 
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Post by hellboy » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:33 pm

crow011 said
OK.

Anyone planning on buying several copies to sell later for a little profit?

It's not like it's scalping, so I don't see anything wrong with it.


To be honest, I think there are much better investments out there.  

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Post by snazzlefrass » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:39 pm

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crow011 said
OK.

Anyone planning on buying several copies to sell later for a little profit?

It's not like it's scalping, so I don't see anything wrong with it.


To be honest, I think there are much better investments out there.  


This could prove to be a good short term investment though. Tool have many fans that would pay big bucks for this "limited edition" art.

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Post by hellboy » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:46 pm

snazzlefrass said

hellboy1975 said


crow011 said
OK.

Anyone planning on buying several copies to sell later for a little profit?

It's not like it's scalping, so I don't see anything wrong with it.


To be honest, I think there are much better investments out there.  


This could prove to be a good short term investment though. Tool have many fans that would pay big bucks for this "limited edition" art.

myah see?


Yeah, I understand that.  To be honest I'm not sure 5000 is really limited enough to see much short term profit.  No doubt they will sell quickly though.  If waiting 10 years to see $50 turn into $100 is your thing then go for it I suppose.

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Post by snazzlefrass » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:55 pm

Shit im sure I could turn that profit in a few weeks.

Yeah, i can see it now.

 
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Post by markuspoop » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:05 pm


hellboy1975 said


snazzlefrass said


hellboy1975 said


crow011 said
OK.

Anyone planning on buying several copies to sell later for a little profit?

It's not like it's scalping, so I don't see anything wrong with it.


To be honest, I think there are much better investments out there.  


This could prove to be a good short term investment though. Tool have many fans that would pay big bucks for this "limited edition" art.

myah see?


Yeah, I understand that.  To be honest I'm not sure 5000 is really limited enough to see much short term profit.  No doubt they will sell quickly though.  If waiting 10 years to see $50 turn into $100 is your thing then go for it I suppose.



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Shit im sure I could turn that profit in a few weeks.

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Post by The Boss » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:53 pm

hellboy1975 said

snazzlefrass said


hellboy1975 said


crow011 said
OK.

Anyone planning on buying several copies to sell later for a little profit?

It's not like it's scalping, so I don't see anything wrong with it.


To be honest, I think there are much better investments out there.  


This could prove to be a good short term investment though. Tool have many fans that would pay big bucks for this "limited edition" art.

myah see?


Yeah, I understand that.  To be honest I'm not sure 5000 is really limited enough to see much short term profit.  No doubt they will sell quickly though.  If waiting 10 years to see $50 turn into $100 is your thing then go for it I suppose.


Providing that all 5,000 sell out in the first week, I'm seeing a doubling of my money almost immediately.

 
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Post by hellboy » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:38 pm

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Providing that all 5,000 sell out in the first week, I'm seeing a doubling of my money almost immediately.

 


I'm pretty sure it'll sell out on the first day, let alone the first week. Not convinced it'll double in value quite so quickly, though I wouldn't be too shocked if it did.

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Post by The Boss » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:41 pm

hellboy1975 said

crow011 said 
Providing that all 5,000 sell out in the first week, I'm seeing a doubling of my money almost immediately.

 


I'm pretty sure it'll sell out on the first day, let alone the first week. Not convinced it'll double in value quite so quickly, though I wouldn't be too shocked if it did.


This isn't a negative statement, but you know how intense TOOL fans are. If they're all sold out with no hope of ever being reprinted, a fan who missed out would be willing to pay a helluva lot.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I would be comfortable exploiting someone like that.

 
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Post by Kittaan » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:49 pm

Well looky there, you came full circle all on your own Crow!  8`)
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Post by ilikecheese » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:51 pm

This is only a cd; it isn't land,

but knowing there's a finite number heading into the opening bell

next Tuesday--people might treat it as such, so

someone can make money, I reckon.  Provided you've sold your fucking soul

ahead of time, of course; I'm sure you'll make out just fine, just fine.

 

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Post by hellboy » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:57 pm

crow011 said 
This isn't a negative statement, but you know how intense TOOL fans are. If they're all sold out with no hope of ever being reprinted, a fan who missed out would be willing to pay a helluva lot.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I would be comfortable exploiting someone like that.


It is exploitation, and something I would't do personally, but everyone has their own standards they live by.  It bugs me from the point of view that those wanting to exploit others snap them up in the initial sale, which prevents all potential buyers from having a fair chance of getting one.  Selling to someone who forgot about the sale or just wasn't organised doesn't really bother me.

Anyway, as I see it this item will have a similar value to Salival.  Today you can go to Ebay and get a copy for $150.  From memory it sold originally in Oz for around $70.  Taking into account inflation and the fact that it came out almost 15 years ago, that's not a huge return.  Sure, you may get lucky and find someone in the first few months following the sale who's desperate, but if you hang onto it for 10+ years expecting it to be worth thousands, I think you'd be disappointed.

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Post by Outsider » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:57 pm

it is a great EP and i love it but, depending on the price i really don't think it will sell out. it will be hanging around like the fish posters.

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Post by '][' [[]] [[]] ][, » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:01 pm

Scored my copy of Salival for $35 off ebay.  I would have liked to have gotten one of those signed versions but those things sold out in an instant with many finding their way to ebay just as quickly.

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Post by hellboy » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:15 pm

TAoutsider said
it is a great EP and i love it but, depending on the price i really don't think it will sell out. it will be hanging around like the fish posters.


I don't think you can compare one of arguably Tool's least interesting poster designs with an Opiate reissue. I think it's much more attractive merchandise option than those fish posters.  Posters really only have meaning to those who attended the shows, unless they are of high quality.  Posters are generally less in demand as well, as it's easy to print more than is really required.  Over the duration of a tour they probably print 10,000 or so posters, so there's much less demand.  

Opiate on the other hand appeals for far more Tool fans than a poster ever will.

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Post by The Boss » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:25 pm

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Well looky there, you came full circle all on your own Crow!  8`)


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Post by ilikecheese » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:32 pm

hellboy1975 said

crow011 said 
This isn't a negative statement, but you know how intense TOOL fans are. If they're all sold out with no hope of ever being reprinted, a fan who missed out would be willing to pay a helluva lot.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I would be comfortable exploiting someone like that.


It is exploitation, and something I would't do personally, but everyone has their own standards they live by.  It bugs me from the point of view that those wanting to exploit others snap them up in the initial sale, which prevents all potential buyers from having a fair chance of getting one.  Selling to someone who forgot about the sale or just wasn't organised doesn't really bother me.

Anyway, as I see it this item will have a similar value to Salival.  Today you can go to Ebay and get a copy for $150.  From memory it sold originally in Oz for around $70.  Taking into account inflation and the fact that it came out almost 15 years ago, that's not a huge return.  Sure, you may get lucky and find someone in the first few months following the sale who's desperate, but if you hang onto it for 10+ years expecting it to be worth thousands, I think you'd be disappointed.


Same thing with ticket sales for concerts.
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Post by Outsider » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:33 pm

i agree with that HB. but you are just basically buying someone's artwork with a crisp new CD. if they would have released a couple of live tunes (besides the ones that are on there) from opiate with it I'd be all over that shit. I'm still very curious how much they want for it. my guess would be between $25.00 to $35.00 U.S.

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Post by ilikecheese » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:34 pm

crow011 said

Kittaan said
Well looky there, you came full circle all on your own Crow!  8`)


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awwww...you're not an asshole.....you're just a wittle teddy bear aren'tchoo you....

 
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Post by The Boss » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:36 pm

ilikecheese said

crow011 said


Kittaan said
Well looky there, you came full circle all on your own Crow!  8`)


For some reason I like to think I'm a bigger asshole than I really am.

 


awwww...you're not an asshole.....you're just a wittle teddy bear aren'tchoo you....

 


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