Thoughts/Reviews on Box Set/Stone and Echo

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Post by M0G » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:27 am

So I purchased the Live at Red Rocks album. I know this is going to shock most of you fuckers but I thought it was EXCELLENT. Sound quality is fantastic. Ole Jimmy sounds great. Glad Billy made some cash off all this. Damn shame Maynard wasted all these years on Puscifer when he could have churned out another APC album or two with Billy.
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Re: Thoughts/Reviews on Box Set/Stone and Echo

Post by petemasterpete » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:30 am

M0G wrote:So I purchased the Live at Red Rocks album. I know this is going to shock most of you fuckers but I thought it was EXCELLENT. Sound quality is fantastic. Ole Jimmy sounds great. Glad Billy made some cash off all this. Damn shame Maynard wasted all these years on Puscifer when he could have churned out another APC album or two with Billy.
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Re: Thoughts/Reviews on Box Set/Stone and Echo

Post by fortysixand2 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:36 pm

CD is great. DVD is garbage. Too many filters and angle changes.

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Post by Krazy_blah » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:20 pm

They can eat a dick, $70.00:

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Post by Ravenpig » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:27 pm

Isn't that what was in the box set but for way less? Except I guess Billy and May Jay's signatures.

Id be pissed if I was one of the people more than $150 only to have it released again 4 months later at less than half the price.
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Post by Krazy_blah » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:29 pm

I think it's about the same. My biggest issue with it is that they aren't releasing the DVD seperately. (And it should be a in BRD format)
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Post by levba » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:34 pm

Bought the "limited edition" version last year. Happy to have that package compared to this package. Its still a cash grab though.

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Post by Ravenpig » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:14 pm

You're ok with the $150 one but the $70 one is a cash grab?
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Post by Krazy_blah » Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:08 am

I think the way they went about it was a fucking cash grab.

First they offer the LE bull shit for $150, and from everything I've read the packaging is garbage. This was meant for their fans (hah!) and were lead to believe this was the only way you were going to get a physical copy of all this stuff. Now they release it with a lower price (although it's still $70.00 for it) minus the autographs, etc. Next thing they're going to do ( probably 6 months down the road) is release physical copies of everything one by one.

IMHO that's done in very poor taste and is a slap in the face to those who didn't want to shell out $150 for that crap to begin with, but fealt that was the only way they were gonna get their hands on this. Also IMO it devalues the LE package.

The right way to do it (see Trent Reznor for suggestions please, APC) is release everything at once in different packages. Collectors are happy, people that want the whole thing but are budget minded are happy, and the casual fan that may only want one of the items (like the DVD) are happy.
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Re: Thoughts/Reviews on Box Set/Stone and Echo

Post by not tyson » Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:24 am

I'm pretty happy, love seeing suckers getting sucked.

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Post by Krazy_blah » Tue Feb 04, 2014 12:36 am

For the record I didn't buy any of this, heh. I do feel kind of bad for the people that legitimately thought the LE would be the only physical option though. Fans will be fans, and sometimes they gotta scrape for the extra few bucks to get something they wanted.

I had an iTunes gift card collecting dust so bought the Red Rocks video. Audio is great (as Mog already said), video is crappy. There are some shots that are really shaky and look like they took them off YouTube (the very beginning of it, for reference, where it's high atop the ampitheater). They used some shit, Instagram looking filters during parts for some unknown reason. And the editing is constantly switching angles/cameras- I wouldn't be shocked to hear some people threw up while watching it.
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Re: Thoughts/Reviews on Box Set/Stone and Echo

Post by joeypants » Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:52 pm

I think the three album night recordings are all great. Would really like to know if these are cobbled together from different shows on that tour (pretty sure they are) and which ones are from where. I was at the San Francisco shows. Would KILL for a copy of that Mel Gibson song they played after they left the stage.

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Post by Kittaan » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:39 am

Which nights in SF? I was there for the first 2. All I remember is the horrendous show tunes they tortured us with before the shows.
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Post by joeypants » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:51 pm

Whaaaaaat?! I loved the show tunes! Go figure haha.

I was there all three. It was amazing, despite making the trip to San Francisco alone.

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Post by iloveposters » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:01 pm

I am almost positive the albums are in order from specific shows and not mashed together. Plenty of sloppiness on some of the songs, bad guitar playing, missed lyrics, etc, so I think if they were from all different shows they would have chosen the BEST and not allowed some cracks and mess ups on the albums. Just my 1/2 cent
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Post by Ettan » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:20 pm

I still don't understand why they didn't use anything from 2000-2004, the 2010 tour was their worst (performance wise)

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Post by Ravenpig » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:49 pm

Ettan wrote:I still don't understand why they didn't use anything from 2000-2004, the 2010 tour was their worst (performance wise)
If it helps, they released live versions of most of Mer de Noms in various singles. They shouldn't be too hard to track down.

From memory at least these were released in that era:

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Post by Ettan » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:43 pm

I'd love to hear more from this show.. Especially Pet, love that song

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Post by Ravenpig » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:06 pm

Oh and they also have that MTV (2 I think) special they recorded during the NIN tour way back in the day.
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Post by iloveposters » Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:04 am

There is also a CD from 6/4/2000 in Phoenix which is a professional soundboard recording. Maymay even mentions that they are recording during the performance. Maymay is extremely talkative throughout the entire show and reveals what the songs are truly about. I believe this is when APC was opening for NIN.

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I believe I have this album somewhere. I do own several APC importe and singles and all of them have various SBDs on thrm as well. I will see what I can do.

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Re: Thoughts/Reviews on Box Set/Stone and Echo

Post by not tyson » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:00 am

Instead of Imagine, May May should have covered The Rainbow Connection.

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