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Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:40 pm
by UndKeineZwEier
InFlamesOfBirchmen said
Both. I mainly use Spotify, but if I really admire an artist's work, or if Spotify simply doesn't have what I'm looking for, I'll just hit up YouTube or buy the album. In the past month alone I dropped a good $40 on CDs

 

Just a thought, but I'd like to put forth an argument: I don't believe illegal downloading is responsible for the shit music that climbs the chart. As technology becomes easier to use and more widely available, it makes sense that more and more people would take advantage of it. Therefore, it isn't illegal downloads, but Garage Band, YouTube, Acid (in before drug pun), and other recording software/distribution models. In essence, it isn't that music has gotten SHITTIER, it's just easier to spread, and thus, we're more aware of it than we were previously.


In the past day alone I've spent $60 on CDs. Lol.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 1:54 pm
by Ravenpig
I will always buy cds and the very occasional vinyl. 

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:05 pm
by joeypants
I'm redoing the living room to accommodate new AV equipment, and getting the turntable fixed up so I've been grabbing more vinyl lately. Mostly older/used stuff though. Although I did just snag the Scandinavian vinyl of Ghost's new album. So purty. 

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:52 pm
by not tyson

Downloading music has ruined the music industry.  There is a direct connection between illegal downloading and the wave of utterly shitty music being produced these days.  Since record companies can no longer profit from the substantial investments they make in an artist they're now not willing to invest much at all.  Because of that the airways are now polluted with this cheaply produced hipster electronic keyboard faggotry.  Look at what won all those awards last Grammys, Goyote!  That kind of music is fucking horrible and makes me want to torture kittens.

 


LOL, what an idiotic opinion, go back and look at the grammys as a whole or even the music industry, it's always been popular music in the charts, always. There is no direct connection between illegal downloading and the wave of utterly shitty music being produced these days at all, it has always been that way. You do realise Goyte released his first 3 albums independently, produces all his albums and writes and records all his own songs? So what exactly does that have to do with a record company? What's in it for them???

 

 

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 2:53 pm
by not tyson
Oh and I download all my music for free, it's not stealing it's pirating.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:33 pm
by '][' [[]] [[]] ][,
Tyson said

Downloading music has ruined the music industry.  There is a direct connection between illegal downloading and the wave of utterly shitty music being produced these days.  Since record companies can no longer profit from the substantial investments they make in an artist they're now not willing to invest much at all.  Because of that the airways are now polluted with this cheaply produced hipster electronic keyboard faggotry.  Look at what won all those awards last Grammys, Goyote!  That kind of music is fucking horrible and makes me want to torture kittens.

 


LOL, what an idiotic opinion, go back and look at the grammys as a whole or even the music industry, it's always been popular music in the charts, always. There is no direct connection between illegal downloading and the wave of utterly shitty music being produced these days at all, it has always been that way. You do realise Goyte released his first 3 albums independently, produces all his albums and writes and records all his own songs? So what exactly does that have to do with a record company? What's in it for them???

 

Haahaa!  You sure know a lot about Goyte.  That speaks volumes. 


Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:38 pm
by not tyson
Nothing wrong with Goyte, probably a bit too complex for you though, it's understandable.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:39 pm
by not tyson
But nice debating skills there buddy

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:44 pm
by Sprout
Haven't paid for music, movies, TV shows or software in years. Last CD I bought (and will ever buy) was 10,000 Days.

Got rid of all my CDs, DVDs etc. on Ebay. So much more room now. Vinyl is the only thing worth buying.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:50 pm
by '][' [[]] [[]] ][,
Tyson said
But nice debating skills there buddy


You're too busy thinking everything here is a debate to ever listen to anyone else's point but I'm glad you had fun, pal.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 3:54 pm
by not tyson
I listened to your point and I even replied to it, those skills are shining through buddy

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:49 pm
by Bogart
I pirate most of my music. However, my favorite bands I'll send money their way. CDs, Vinyl, merch, tours, etc.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:52 pm
by hellboy
I generally download first and ask questions later.

I don't buy CD's anymore unless the artwork that comes with it is of some note.  Given the choice I will always buy vinyl over CD.

I don't and probably never will buy via iTunes or other such stores.  I do buy music digitally from sites such as Bandcamp where there is no client required or DRM incorporated with the files.

I don't agree that downloading has ruined the music industry.  I actually listen to a much wider variety of bands than I ever did, mainly due to easy access to a range of musicians work.  I do believe however that the days of "alternative" artists such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam being superstars are over.  There will be a big divide between the superstars of future and the average garage rock band.  I do think however it will be easier for artists to make living in the industry, however dreams of riches and popularity may have to be tempered.

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:20 pm
by UndKeineZwEier
hellboy1975 said

I don't agree that downloading has ruined the music industry.  I actually listen to a much wider variety of bands than I ever did, mainly due to easy access to a range of musicians work.  I do believe however that the days of "alternative" artists such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam being superstars are over.  There will be a big divide between the superstars of future and the average garage rock band.  I do think however it will be easier for artists to make living in the industry, however dreams of riches and popularity may have to be tempered.


Yeah I agree. The industry isn't dying it's just changing. Hopefully for the better, though that's a hard thing to predict.

 

 

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:30 pm
by phox_
hellboy1975 said
I generally download first and ask questions later.

I don't buy CD's anymore unless the artwork that comes with it is of some note.  Given the choice I will always buy vinyl over CD.

I don't and probably never will buy via iTunes or other such stores.  I do buy music digitally from sites such as Bandcamp where there is no client required or DRM incorporated with the files.

I don't agree that downloading has ruined the music industry.  I actually listen to a much wider variety of bands than I ever did, mainly due to easy access to a range of musicians work.  I do believe however that the days of "alternative" artists such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam being superstars are over.  There will be a big divide between the superstars of future and the average garage rock band.  I do think however it will be easier for artists to make living in the industry, however dreams of riches and popularity may have to be tempered.


Other than buying some music direct from artists, this is me to a T.

 

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:39 pm
by hellboy
phox_ said 
Other than buying some music direct from artists, this is me to a T.

 


Happy to buy directly from the artist as well, but I find that doesn't happen all that frequently (I wish more bands did sell their own stuff though).

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:58 pm
by bigboy55693

hellboy1975 said
I generally download first and ask questions later.

I don't buy CD's anymore unless the artwork that comes with it is of some note.  Given the choice I will always buy vinyl over CD.


 Agreed with this sentiment.

 

Last CD I bought was Koi No Yokan, and that was after I pirated it. I only bought it b/c it had been since 10K days that I have  bought a CD and I thought what the hell...

 

The only physical CD's I have left and will keep are my Tool CD's, save the one's that are still kicking around in my 350 slot CD binder (any 90's kids remember those?).

 

Several sealed first edition main albums, promo's, etc. (all of the promo's I bought off the 'bay so take that as it is.)  They are part of my collection. If I wasn't a collector of Tool stuff and just a casual fan I would not have any CD's left.

 

I like vinyl, or the idea of it, and will probably get around to starting a collection soon.  Deftone's live trax and Tool exclusively me thinks...

 

In the end it is to each their own.  I like pirating since I am a tight ass with my money and hate spending $13 on a piece of plastic.  Also hate that I would have to rip the CD and then put it on my phone.  Too many steps for a far too lazy American.

 

Like others have said on here; keep going to shows and buying merch at said shows and the band will get "theirs".

 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:10 pm
by cesaro
I'd prefer to see the artist live first and foremost. Usually go to about 15 shows on average per year. Buy merchandise and maybe get introduced to other bands that are playing the gig with them. 

I tend to buy on iTunes, Badncamp for ease of access and fair price. I agree that 'going digital' in terms of sales has cheapened music in the eyes of the commercial crowd. And at the same time, it has given the indies out there an amazing platform to reach out to all kinds of audiences.

 

I only torrent if I can't find something I am looking for. I think YouTube previews actually helps the artist more than it does harm overall. If your music is good ( to anyone's ears ), people will find you eventually via their search, recommendations from others, etc. There is just too much music out there, it will take forever to give justice to it.

Just enjoy the music and support the artist whenever and however you can.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:59 pm
by petemasterpete
Spotify Hack

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 3:18 am
by sacredfire
When I buy music, I tend to buy direct from the artist's website, sometimes from the independent shops (these are good for Vinyl) around Melbourne and very rarely from the large chain stores we have here called JB HiFi. The chains rarely have what I'm after though. I've bought stuff off Amazon sometimes and websites that specialise in genres or underground stuff. 

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:49 am
by markuspoop
Tony Fuckin Danza said
I pirate and buy physical when/if I can. The whole industry is a joke now, so unless you're buying directly from the artist, they're probably not getting shit.

Bands and musicians make money from touring and merchandise, and I have no problem giving my cash to go see a show and buy a T-shirt.


This is me.

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:10 am
by ilikecheese
markuspoop said

Tony Fuckin Danza said
I pirate and buy physical when/if I can. The whole industry is a joke now, so unless you're buying directly from the artist, they're probably not getting shit.

Bands and musicians make money from touring and merchandise, and I have no problem giving my cash to go see a show and buy a T-shirt.


This is me.


I'd fuck that quote

Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:17 pm
by petemasterpete
toolphishdhs said

petemasterpete said
Spotify Hack


That is all well and good but the reason i have spotify is so i dont have to download anything.  i can access through home or phone. no need to download.


that's cool... just seemed to fit this thread... I could give a shit really as I don't care for spotify

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 4:45 am
by snazzlefrass
markuspoop said

Tony Fuckin Danza said
I pirate and buy physical when/if I can. The whole industry is a joke now, so unless you're buying directly from the artist, they're probably not getting shit.

Bands and musicians make money from touring and merchandise, and I have no problem giving my cash to go see a show and buy a T-shirt.


This is me.


Same here. Fuck rules.