hellboy wrote:xZ1mM3r wrote:Its shitty.. But their shows always sell out, and the VIPs are sold. So there isn't a reason for Tool to change. Its working for them.
There is a reason to change: respect for their fan base.
People (Tool included) should stop seeing their music business as nothing but a bank machine.
oh i agree that Tool SHOULD change... but as you said, they should do it out of respect for their fans. Frankly, at the risk of sounding too pessimistic, i have no reason to think they have respect for their fans. Any band would have to go out of their way to show respect for their fans. Tool has done nothing to lead me to believe that they necessarily respect us.
-Maynard has said fans are insufferable retards. Granted, yes, some fans of Tool are insufferable, but what is the benefit to MJK to say something like that? It just alienates every fan; because no fan, even the ones who are insufferable, believe that they are.
-Multiple members of Tool have stated that they dont make music for fans, they make it for themselves. Which is probably the case with most successful bands because once they only are making music for the fans the quality and heart of the music will be gone. But again, what is the benefit of the band to say that? It doesnt help their cause to remind us that they dont make music for us, it just is a slap in the face, even if it is true for most bands.
-Empty promises. Empty release dates. Member of the band have been saying they expect "an album by the end of the year" since what, 2012? Just builds up hope only to be let down time and again. And lets think about things OTHER than the new album. How about The Pot video? Empty promise. How about the new Opiate video/version that was going to be released before Christmas 2015 (according to the band). Empty promise. How about the Opiate golden tickets? Absolutely pointless hope.
Going back to the original point. Yes i think Tool SHOULD change how they treat fans, especially with regards to ticket sales and presales. But why would they? They havent shown us that they respect us, and that is the only reason that they would change. At this point I wouldnt be surprised to see an announcement on Toolband.com talking about how they are going to change ticket sales and finally do real presales for fans for their next tour. Then when the next tour comes around there is no mention of it and nothing changes. This post is somewhat 'Grudge-y' but its all true. Tool have done themselves no favors when it comes to earning respect from fans, and showing respect to fans.